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	<title>Comments on: Apples and Oranges: The pitch for pre-paid gas option</title>
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		<title>By: RaviC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RaviC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your patience in dealing with this old man :) Looks like I was frozen in time capsule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your patience in dealing with this old man <img src='http://www.rajeshsetty.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Looks like I was frozen in time capsule.</p>
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		<title>By: Rajesh Setty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rajesh Setty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Ravi. that&#039;s a good point.

Now a days when you rent a car most of the time you have get a car with FULL tank of gas. So you are expected to return the car with a FULL tank of gas.

Best,
Rajesh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Ravi. that&#8217;s a good point.</p>
<p>Now a days when you rent a car most of the time you have get a car with FULL tank of gas. So you are expected to return the car with a FULL tank of gas.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Rajesh</p>
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		<title>By: RaviC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RaviC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your illustration Rajesh.

The point I was trying to make: self fill option, they record fuel meter at the time of rental(prone to visual error), and when you return the car they expect the fuel meter should close to the fuel meter reading at the time of rental. Rental car return with the same fuel meter reading is a challenge - most of the time I had invariably filled in excesss to avoid fancy charges.

To turn the game in your favor: you have to return the car with fuel meter slightly below the recorded fuel meter reading ( and hoping that they won&#039;t notice this...) - can be tactical/costly to accomplish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your illustration Rajesh.</p>
<p>The point I was trying to make: self fill option, they record fuel meter at the time of rental(prone to visual error), and when you return the car they expect the fuel meter should close to the fuel meter reading at the time of rental. Rental car return with the same fuel meter reading is a challenge &#8211; most of the time I had invariably filled in excesss to avoid fancy charges.</p>
<p>To turn the game in your favor: you have to return the car with fuel meter slightly below the recorded fuel meter reading ( and hoping that they won&#8217;t notice this&#8230;) &#8211; can be tactical/costly to accomplish.</p>
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		<title>By: Rajesh Setty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rajesh Setty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ravi.

Personally I never sign up for the pre-paid option. The logic I use is quite simple (my bird brain can&#039;t process complex logic anyway)

Option #1: Pre-paid will cost me about $45 for the full tank.

Option #2: Self-fill. The risk is that I return the car with less gas and they will charge me about $8 per gallon.

Let us assume that nine out of ten cases I return the car with full tank of gas. So I have already saved close to $400.

In the last case, if I do return with less gas, I might lose. But let us dig deeper. If I have to pay for a gallon of gas ($8) I still don&#039;t lose. Actually I don&#039;t lose until I have to pay for more than 6 gallons (6 * $8 = $48 which is more than $45 for the full tank of gas)

Best,
Rajesh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ravi.</p>
<p>Personally I never sign up for the pre-paid option. The logic I use is quite simple (my bird brain can&#8217;t process complex logic anyway)</p>
<p>Option #1: Pre-paid will cost me about $45 for the full tank.</p>
<p>Option #2: Self-fill. The risk is that I return the car with less gas and they will charge me about $8 per gallon.</p>
<p>Let us assume that nine out of ten cases I return the car with full tank of gas. So I have already saved close to $400.</p>
<p>In the last case, if I do return with less gas, I might lose. But let us dig deeper. If I have to pay for a gallon of gas ($8) I still don&#8217;t lose. Actually I don&#8217;t lose until I have to pay for more than 6 gallons (6 * $8 = $48 which is more than $45 for the full tank of gas)</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Rajesh</p>
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		<title>By: RaviC</title>
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		<dc:creator>RaviC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if you choose self filling option, more likely you may favor the rental car companies with excess gas in the tank.
There is always an apprehension of returning your car with lower gas reading and being charged at fancy price (a form of subtle threat from the rental company) for the difference.

Frequently, I chose to fill the tank. I ended up returning the car with more gas in the tank - not by design, it just happens.
You can win in self filling option, when you return the car with slighly lower gas reading than the recorded reading when you rented
- can be tactical/costly to accomplish!

Paying for gas based on mileage used would be most desirable and it is a win for the customer. But, the rental companies do not have
business incentive to do that unless there is some legal regulation which levies hefty fines on rental companies.

In summary: I speculate in either of these options, the game is in the favor of rental companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if you choose self filling option, more likely you may favor the rental car companies with excess gas in the tank.<br />
There is always an apprehension of returning your car with lower gas reading and being charged at fancy price (a form of subtle threat from the rental company) for the difference.</p>
<p>Frequently, I chose to fill the tank. I ended up returning the car with more gas in the tank &#8211; not by design, it just happens.<br />
You can win in self filling option, when you return the car with slighly lower gas reading than the recorded reading when you rented<br />
- can be tactical/costly to accomplish!</p>
<p>Paying for gas based on mileage used would be most desirable and it is a win for the customer. But, the rental companies do not have<br />
business incentive to do that unless there is some legal regulation which levies hefty fines on rental companies.</p>
<p>In summary: I speculate in either of these options, the game is in the favor of rental companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Rajesh Setty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rajesh Setty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Brad.

I have to tell you that the odds are still hugely in the favor of the rental companies. More people who will choose pre-paid option will return with gallons of gas in the tank.

Adding to this, car rental companies can use examples (of exceptional cases) and make people feel that pre-paid option is a no-brainer.

My $.02

Best,
Rajesh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Brad.</p>
<p>I have to tell you that the odds are still hugely in the favor of the rental companies. More people who will choose pre-paid option will return with gallons of gas in the tank.</p>
<p>Adding to this, car rental companies can use examples (of exceptional cases) and make people feel that pre-paid option is a no-brainer.</p>
<p>My $.02</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Rajesh</p>
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		<title>By: bdanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>bdanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raj,

I figured this out but ended up on the wrong side of the price equation.  I got caught in the valley and it took forever for me to get to the airport.  Filling the tank of my rental took about 15 minutes longer than it should of because of congestion at the gas station and a weird pay model.  I ended up missing the gate on my flight and had to stay over in LA!!!!  It cost me hotel, taxi and a night away from my family.

I would have made it with pre-paid.

In other words, take your advice AND show up early with your rental car!

Cheers,

Brad Danks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raj,</p>
<p>I figured this out but ended up on the wrong side of the price equation.  I got caught in the valley and it took forever for me to get to the airport.  Filling the tank of my rental took about 15 minutes longer than it should of because of congestion at the gas station and a weird pay model.  I ended up missing the gate on my flight and had to stay over in LA!!!!  It cost me hotel, taxi and a night away from my family.</p>
<p>I would have made it with pre-paid.</p>
<p>In other words, take your advice AND show up early with your rental car!</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Brad Danks</p>
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		<title>By: Rajesh Setty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rajesh Setty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 04:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mohan,

Thank you for the comment.

I am sure we both will agree that this is an exception and even during business trips, you can opt to fill the gas yourself.

However, this is precisely the kind of exceptions that the car companies want to bank on. They want people to feel that this might happen (more often than not) and pre-paid option is a better way to go.

My $.02 of course.

Best
Rajesh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mohan,</p>
<p>Thank you for the comment.</p>
<p>I am sure we both will agree that this is an exception and even during business trips, you can opt to fill the gas yourself.</p>
<p>However, this is precisely the kind of exceptions that the car companies want to bank on. They want people to feel that this might happen (more often than not) and pre-paid option is a better way to go.</p>
<p>My $.02 of course.</p>
<p>Best<br />
Rajesh</p>
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		<title>By: Mohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raj,
The road warrior in me says you just can’t beat the system.
I prefer to decline the prepaid gas option but on occasion – running late for a flight after a client meeting or just plain forgetfulness – I have driven back to the airport returns only to realize: I didn’t fill the tank. At times like these, one cannot turn around and opt to refill since:
a) Either they have closed the ‘contract’ and will not allow the car out or
b) Don’t have time to do it: got a flight to catch
Being screwed over by having to pay $7.99 or 8.99 a gallon: one has to learn to live with it I guess.
Kind of explains why business travelers on expense-accounts opt for prepaid option; right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raj,<br />
The road warrior in me says you just can’t beat the system.<br />
I prefer to decline the prepaid gas option but on occasion – running late for a flight after a client meeting or just plain forgetfulness – I have driven back to the airport returns only to realize: I didn’t fill the tank. At times like these, one cannot turn around and opt to refill since:<br />
a) Either they have closed the ‘contract’ and will not allow the car out or<br />
b) Don’t have time to do it: got a flight to catch<br />
Being screwed over by having to pay $7.99 or 8.99 a gallon: one has to learn to live with it I guess.<br />
Kind of explains why business travelers on expense-accounts opt for prepaid option; right?</p>
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